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Haunter259 · Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 12:25 am Post subject:

What the dilly, yo?

I want to play around with it too!

Tim Tylor · Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 2:22 am Post subject:

Looks like a wonderful tool.

A Windows version would be great. I know Mac's the platform of choice for graphics-folk, but... well, let Kurtz say it. (Looks like he's making slow but definite progress towards his goal.

) I've no idea how easy it would be to write, though.

It would be a good idea to have a working example or two of comics created with it, even an existing comic chopped up and reformatted in it (with the artist's permission, of course). The showcase is still empty, and I'm on Windows so I can't contribute.

Aquarius · Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 10:37 am Post subject:

Hello,
I'm sorry for the late reply. The current version is not portable to Windows - with some(?) work it may be possible to port it to GNUStep (Linux). But I would like to rewrite the whole application and this will mean Mac OS X and Windows (Linux?) support. So PLEASE provide me with feedback:

What do you like?
What would you change?
What do you want to see in a future version?
...

Please, also reply if you don't like the application. I need feedback!

Doc MacDougal · Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 1:06 pm Post subject:

I've downloaded it and I'm going to try to put together an alternate version of a strip I'm working on with it. Hopefully I'll have something in a few days.

Ben
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kaos_de_moria · Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 6:08 pm Post subject:

ShadowCaster · Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 10:18 am Post subject:

Aquarius · Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 1:51 pm Post subject:

ShadowCaster · Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 4:33 am Post subject:

I'm a beginner at wxWidgets, this project might be a good occasion to practice it. I've never worked on a Mac so I don't know how hard it would be to port Cocoa/Objective C to C++. I've been told that dynamic binding of Objective C can be very tricky to adapt to C++.
QT is too expensive for me and we woud have to pay one licence per programmer (and per plateform if we build the binaries ourselves).

While I dissagree that java apps don't feel right, I have to agree that most users feel as you do, and since it's for them that the app is developped, I'm forced to agree it shoud be ruled out

Guest · Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 2:24 pm Post subject:

The wxWidgets have one disadvantage: they use Carbon and not Aqua. So they don't have the typical OS X feeling. I'm also thinking about using C++ and OpenGL for the Model and View part of the application and a native framework (Cocoa AppKit on OX X) for the Controller. But this would require a very clean design and the separation between controller and view is not always easy.

I think it's too early to consider the technical aspects. Now it's important to know what people think about my application and what should be improved in a future version!

Aquarius · Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 2:25 pm Post subject:

Sorry I forgot to login. I posted the last message

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ShadowCaster · Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 5:18 am Post subject:

OK, let's wait then. I won't be able to directly test it myself but will watch for comics made using your tool to pop up and will give indirect feedback thru these.

I have a few question about the actual state of the tool : does it support png's partial transparency, image stacking and image stretching ? If so, it would allow nice effects with very small file sizes.
Could images get a global transparency parameter as in the SVG format ? That would also be a great feature, for example to make translucent word baloons out of tiny gifs with binary transparency.

Aquarius · Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 1:05 pm Post subject:

ShadowCaster · Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 5:26 pm Post subject:

At some point, png support was added to the image object, but it's dangerout to rely blindly on it since older VM won't deal with it. Some VM version checking and plan B stategy is needed (either alternate Gifs or external png handling object).
PM checked but applet not working : class missing
[EDIT] it's working now

Guest · Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 11:51 am Post subject:

Just to chime in on the Flash idea, yes, you can manipulate XML in Flash, and I would say ActionScript would be up to displaying the results of the application, equally as well as Java. (And probably somewhat more reliably.) Java, however, is supported on more platforms than Flash at this point. So it would depend on which is more important to you -- wide potential playability or stability on a somewhat smaller set of platforms. (Note that the Flash player is available for Mac, Windows, and several versions of Unix already.)

For cross-platform development purposes, you might consider Runtime Revolution for the authoring tool. It compiles to Mac, Windows (many versions of each), and 9 versions of Unix/Linux. It's a lot like Hypercard, but with somewhat more power. See http://www.runrev.com for more info.

E. Dalton

Aquarius · Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 4:03 am Post subject: