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Random Dent Forum Member
Joined: 07 Sep 2003 Posts: 18
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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Arrr, I have a fire in me belly to give Scott a right slap on the back for puttin' in th' pirate talk. Aye, tis good to see ev'ryone celebratin' this fine day.
What's a pirate's favorite resturant?
Arrrrrby's! _________________ "One can not be a good dicator and design women's underclothings."
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michael patrick Guest
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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In honor of "Talk Like a Pirate Day" I drew a self portrait as a pirate- I never finished it, but here it is anyway:
http://www.half-past.com/game/pyrite.html |
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gareis Guest
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 10:18 am Post subject: |
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That's high-brow existential stuff, Michael. You should sell it for lots of money. |
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michael patrick Guest
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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actually, the NEA found that picture so controversial that the'yre giving me a grant to NOT finish it. |
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Rip Tanion Reinvents understanding
Joined: 12 Apr 2002 Posts: 635 Location: The Riptania Sky-Palace in da beauuuuuutiful Bronx.
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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Here's my application for a ZWOL No-prize.
Did anyone notice, that when panel 3 was first put up, the "off-camera" character called the guy coming through the door "Wally". Today, his name in the panel has been changed to Stuart.
Wally, of course, is a perfect name for Walrus. Just ask Walter Lantz.
Yesterday, when Stuart was Wally, I thought Wally (who's now called Stuart) was going to somehow morph into a Walrus, at some point in the story.
Now that Wally is now called Stuart (as opposed to Stewart), one can deduce that Wally was changed to Stuart (only slight less nerdy of a name than Stanley) because Scott (a fine name, and certainly less nerdy than Stanley) either just decided to change the character's name for the hell of it, OR, and I think this likely, that he simply fucked up, and wrote Wally instead of Stuart (which is better than being called Myron), due to the fact that while he was typing, his mind was on Wally, who, one can, and will, assume is actually the name of the character who is "off camera", addressing Stuart (which is also better than being called Hyman...just ask your Uncle Hymie), and who is, indeed, with out a shadow of doubt ...a fat, mustachioed, ivory tusked WALRUS!
Or maybe not...
Scott and Greg (both fine names, for sure), you can leave my prize in the parking lot of the nearest White Castle, where one of my operatives will come to pick it up. _________________ "Park the beers, and grab the smiles. It's flight time." - LtCdr. J. Robert "Bobby" Stone, USN (R.I.P.) |
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Hunter of Wisdom Regular Poster
Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Posts: 23 Location: Along the Wintry Street
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | one can, and will, assume is actually the name of the character who is "off camera", addressing Stuart (which is also better than being called Hyman...just ask your Uncle Hymie), and who is, indeed, with out a shadow of doubt ...a fat, mustachioed, ivory tusked WALRUS! |
I'd like to register a shadow of a doubt. I don't think the character off screen is the walrus, because the walrus is peeking through the door . |
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Rip Tanion Reinvents understanding
Joined: 12 Apr 2002 Posts: 635 Location: The Riptania Sky-Palace in da beauuuuuutiful Bronx.
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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Hunter of Wisdom wrote: | Quote: | one can, and will, assume is actually the name of the character who is "off camera", addressing Stuart (which is also better than being called Hyman...just ask your Uncle Hymie), and who is, indeed, with out a shadow of doubt ...a fat, mustachioed, ivory tusked WALRUS! |
I'd like to register a shadow of a doubt. I don't think the character off screen is the walrus, because the walrus is peeking through the door . |
Hmmm, didn't notice that before. There goes by ZWOL No-prize, right down the toilet.
Then again, maybe not.
OK, we see our little (ok, he ain't so little) walrus friend peeking behind the door. But what if there's another walrus? What if the "off-camera" character, that Stuart (spelled backwards is Trauts) is speaking with, is a Walrus, too? What if the walruses had taken over the world, but no one ever noticed it?
Here's another clue for the lot,
The Walrus is Scott. _________________ "Park the beers, and grab the smiles. It's flight time." - LtCdr. J. Robert "Bobby" Stone, USN (R.I.P.) |
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Hunter of Wisdom Regular Poster
Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Posts: 23 Location: Along the Wintry Street
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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Rip Tanion wrote: | OK, we see our little (ok, he ain't so little) walrus friend peeking behind the door. But what if there's another walrus? |
But if there are more than one walrus, which one is the walrus? The title implies that there's only one, or at the very least one that's more important (if only to the story) than the others.
Rip Tanion wrote: | Stuart (spelled backwards is Trauts) |
Maybe Stuart is a fish. Or several fishes. |
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DecafSilicon Consistant Poster
Joined: 29 Aug 2003 Posts: 169 Location: Grove City College, PA, USA
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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Stuart is the only walrus and everyone else are people in walrus costumes?
Like "The Others"? |
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Greg Stephens Forum Founder
Joined: 14 Apr 2001 Posts: 3861 Location: Los Angeles, California, USA
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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2003 4:12 am Post subject: |
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Hunter of Wisdom wrote: | I don't think the character off screen is the walrus, because the walrus is peeking through the door . |
Well, this improv's over- Somebody noticed the Walrus! _________________ Good morning! That's a nice tnetennba. |
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Hunter of Wisdom Regular Poster
Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Posts: 23 Location: Along the Wintry Street
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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2003 4:32 am Post subject: |
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Greg Stephens wrote: | Well, this improv's over- Somebody noticed the Walrus! |
Oops.
Sorry about that.
(I was thinking this Improv might involve ordinary people doing ordinary things in ordinary situations, but always, always, there's the walrus lurking in the background. Silent, observing, thinking, and in the end... it MURDERs them all! Or not.) |
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gareis Guest
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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2003 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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The walrus is going to steal everything! He's a rotten nasty thief! |
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DecafSilicon Consistant Poster
Joined: 29 Aug 2003 Posts: 169 Location: Grove City College, PA, USA
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Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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The walrus is up to his own plans, with no major bearing on the office workers, who serve as continual comic relief. Relief for what? Maybe for more comedy.
But maybe the Walrus has a mission. |
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Random Dent Forum Member
Joined: 07 Sep 2003 Posts: 18
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Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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I have to go with the thief view- it seems to me like he defiantly snuck in. BUt there's no evil glint in his eyes...hmmm... _________________ "One can not be a good dicator and design women's underclothings."
-Jeeves, The Code of the Woosters |
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gareis Guest
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Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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Do you know how hard it is for a walrus to put *any* glint in his eye, much less an evil one? |
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Norg Guest
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Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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I bet that walrus is there for his firt day on a job!, NObody noticed on his application that he was a walrus because they were not allowed to.,damned affirmitive action! |
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ShadowCaster Frequent Poster
Joined: 23 Sep 2003 Posts: 93 Location: France
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 10:43 am Post subject: |
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I'm amazed no one experienced any reading problems with this comic but me. Since it has no trail, I read it line by line and of course it seemed very strange . I finally understood the problem when noticing the clock returning 5mn in the past. I think one of the aims of the shape of the first picture was to specify that the comic was ment to be read column by column. Since the first pannels are mostly identical, some more space beetween the first colums could be a way to help untrained webcomic readers like me figuring out the reading pattern. |
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kaos_de_moria Consistant Poster
Joined: 22 Aug 2003 Posts: 161 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 11:46 am Post subject: |
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ShadowCaster wrote: | I'm amazed no one experienced any reading problems with this comic but me. Since it has no trail, I read it line by line and of course it seemed very strange . I finally understood the problem when noticing the clock returning 5mn in the past. I think one of the aims of the shape of the first picture was to specify that the comic was ment to be read column by column. Since the first pannels are mostly identical, some more space beetween the first colums could be a way to help untrained webcomic readers like me figuring out the reading pattern. |
LOL most people came every day i guess and that way, they new the order of the panels...  |
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Greg Stephens Forum Founder
Joined: 14 Apr 2001 Posts: 3861 Location: Los Angeles, California, USA
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 11:58 am Post subject: |
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ShadowCaster wrote: | I'm amazed no one experienced any reading problems with this comic but me. Since it has no trail, I read it line by line and of course it seemed very strange. |
I'd been meaning to raise this question and remind Scott of page 86 of Understanding Comics, but I've been so nit-picky lately that I didn't feel I should. It's still a relevant issue, though. Trails would solve it handily.
Edit: Just noticed that trails have appeared for this comic as of today. Well, that fixed that! _________________ Good morning! That's a nice tnetennba. |
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wansley Frequent Poster
Joined: 24 Apr 2002 Posts: 54
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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Greg Stephens wrote: | ShadowCaster wrote: | I'm amazed no one experienced any reading problems with this comic but me. Since it has no trail, I read it line by line and of course it seemed very strange  |
I'd been meaning to raise this question and remind Scott of page 86 of Understanding Comics, but I've been so nit-picky lately that I didn't feel I should. It's still a relevant issue, though. Trails would solve it handily. |
Actually, I did read the panels of this comic in the wrong order at first as well, but quickly realized my mistake. I am surprised that Scott ("Happy Trails") McCloud uses trails in his webcomics so infrequently considering how much he has written about them. I would guess this is because trails are hard to implement with the methods Scott is using now to put his web pages together.
By the way, I did think it was interesting that Scott was apparently using increased space between the panels in the notorious previous Improv ("The Evil that Men Forget to Do") to indicate increasing passage of time, although it didn't seem to be done consistantly. Perhaps it was just an artifact of my web browser. (IE 5.5 ... I'm ... so ... ashamed ... sob!) _________________ William Ansley |
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Scott McCloud The one and only
Joined: 23 May 2001 Posts: 299
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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That was funny.
I added the trails this morning, fearing that some might read the comic in the wrong direction and then just arrived here to find that you guys were already discussing the need ahead of time.
And since you asked:
Yes, the increased spaces in "Evil" were introduced deliberately to affect the pacing, and...
No, trails are easy enough to implement. I just want to use them when they serve a purpose (rather than just an attempt to make it look "McCloudian" or something). "Walrus" is a good example of a comic that suffered for the lack of them, so I put 'em in. Something like the more conventional Somnivore didn't really need them. |
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Tim Mallos Understands reinventing
Joined: 23 Apr 2001 Posts: 354 Location: Brighton, Michigan
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 4:54 pm Post subject: A couple of observations |
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I like the depth Scott has created, using fully saturated lines and color for the foreground and slightly less so for the background. Notice the Walrus (or don't, if you want to keep the spirit of the endeavor) as he moves from the desaturated background into the fully saturated fore.
Hmm. Just looked again, I guess the fully saturated effect is just to focus attention, as the sheet of paper is fully saturated in the second panel, but the desk at the same plane is not. Anyhow, I like it.
Also, tick-tock. Pacing-shmacing, we have a very concrete time cue in this comic.
Finally, Norg, I was the walrus you described. I showed up for my new job in November of 1997 an no one knew who I was. Everyone who had interviewed me and hired me was in New York at Internet World for a week.
I sat around for 3 days with people staring at me until I finally got fed up and started helping with a project in crisis. Very weird experience.
Tim _________________
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Kris Lachowski Guest
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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2003 9:23 am Post subject: HEY! |
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I bet that "HEY!" is not directed at him. Poor guy, i hate that "being ignored in the waiting room feeling". |
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josner Forum Member
Joined: 30 Jul 2003 Posts: 10 Location: South Orange, NJ
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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2003 11:51 am Post subject: The receptionist's name |
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She is Bernice when she's behind the desk, Cathy when she's in front. Or is Bernice still back there? _________________ READIN |
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