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Rip Tanion
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PEACE THROUGH STRENGTH!
EYE FOR AN EYE!

Scott, bubballa, you're a man after my own heart.

Now back to more important things...ME

Nobody likes me!
Everybody hates me!
That's cause I eat worms!


Heh, heh. Ok, let me first say I was a bit surly yesterday, watching Green Bay choke to my arch-enemies, the Philadelphia Eagles. That drug-addled, fat fool, Rush Limboob (that should make you libs cheer) had to open up is big-yap about McNabb, and light a fire under his teams ass, so many months ago. I wish he would have called Kerry Collins a "drunken Patty" instead (though I don't think that would have helped my happless Giants much) Still, everything I do is tounge-in-cheek (somehow that sounds dirty)

First off, it's not the Don Rickles School of Insult Comedy (you hockey-puck) it's the Howard Stern School of Bodkining and Shock-Jockery. Still, Rickles is a god.

Of course I was funning Scott. Really, Sky is a lovely name. Hey, could be worse. He could have named the kid Murray.

However, if Scott tries to beat me at that World Domination game, things could get nasty.

Thank you, I'll be here at Grossinger's all week. Try the matzoh-ball soup.

As for liberal baiting...hmmm, maybe sub-conciously I do get a thrill out of it, but that's because you libs are such a sensitive bunch. You make it all so easy. I really seem to annoy Doc. He's gotta lighten up. It's only the internet. Give me your address, Doc. I'll send you flowers and chocolates.

What I don't understand is how some of you out there get bent out of shape when I insult a bunch of millionaires out in Hollywood. I mean, who are these people to you? If I was going around insulting your spouses and families, then I could understand people getting mad. I mean, I love Charlton Heston, but if someone called him a drooling old retard, I wouldn't be offended. I'm only trying to have some fun (at Hollywood's expense, of course)

Still, I've decided to swear off lib-baiting, at least in this forum, from now on. My fingers hurt from all this typing.

As for actors, I'm sure there are some smart actors out there (I'm just having a hard time finding them). Sorry, if I busted Bubblejumpers bubble. I hung out with Kelsey Grammer one night (before he quit drinking), and he seemed like an nice enough and intelligent enough guy. It was a fun night, but I'll spare the details for another time.

I myself have done a bit of acting on the small (very small) stage, and in a couple of my friends' student films. I'll admit, I can be ham, but I didn't think acting is that hard. I also dated of couple of actresses (not for long, though) and holy cow I never met a more airheaded, empty talking, self-centerd bunch. I still think the majority of actors out in Hollywood are dopes, though.

It just goes to show you, that old adage is true. Always take care when you argue politics and religion. You open up a can of worms (mmmm, worms.) I mean, we all got along nicely when we were talking about walruses (brimlies) and monkeys.

Come on, people, now
Smile on your brother
Everybody get together
Try to love one another right now!


'Nuff said. Now, time for me to go back in my Troll-Hole.
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Rip Tanion
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 4:41 pm    Post subject: Sorry, gang, just one more thing. Reply with quote

Sorry to be a pain in the ass, but I forgot to reply to this.
simrob wrote:
but do you also disagree with people that think it's probably not a terrible idea but nevertheless have some big reservations about our actions/our government/our unilaterialsm?
Hey, the world is complicated. Some people see it hazier and greyer than I do. That fine, except I don't think I'd vote for them (unless they're running against Hillary, et al). Actually, I do see some things in grey, just not on this particular issue.

As for unilaterism, what unilaterism? Great Britain has been in this thing all the way with us. They deserve some props for their contribution to the war effort as do (gasp) the Poles, and a few other countries I can't think of off hand. So we bypassed the U.N. Don't get me strarted on the U.N. I'm in enough hot water as it is.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 4:46 pm    Post subject: Shoe on other foot? Reply with quote

Rip Tanion wrote:
Bottom line: Most actors a real dopes. They took drama classes because they were too dumb to pass any other classes. These people really have nothing to say, unless they are reading somebody else's words. Somebody should tell these clowns they they play pretend for a living, and nobody but a moron gives a rat's ass what they have to say. I long for the good old days of the nineteenth century, when the acting profession was less respected by society then prostitution.


I'm curious to know what Mr. Tanion's reaction would be if someone else had made this exact comment regarding Mr. Charlton Heston.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 4:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Shoe on other foot? Reply with quote

JDE wrote:
I'm curious to know what Mr. Tanion's reaction would be if someone else had made this exact comment regarding Mr. Charlton Heston.
Just scroll up. I already covered that.

Or, maybe, I'll just save you the time.
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I mean, I love Charlton Heston, but if someone called him a drooling old retard, I wouldn't be offended.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ooop, that was me. I'm sure you already guessed that, though.

Ok, ok, I'm going, I'm going. See y'all tomorrow.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 5:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Shoe on other foot? Reply with quote

Actually, it occurred to me that when people start to think that actors' political viewpoints are inconsequential is when they find that they're probably wrong.

Now, as to Mr. Heston (or, as I call him, Uncle Chuck), I don't agree with his views, but I have managed to uncover his inner magic.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rip Tanion wrote:
As for liberal baiting...hmmm, maybe sub-conciously I do get a thrill out of it, but that's because you libs are such a sensitive bunch. You make it all so easy. I really seem to annoy Doc. He's gotta lighten up. It's only the internet. Give me your address, Doc. I'll send you flowers and chocolates.


Hmmm... *plots way to piss off Rip so he can get free flowers and chocolates too*

By the way, Scott, very clever looping with the "eye for an eye for an eye..." Beautiful way to illustrate the point.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I called it! Yay Me!

I only hope I'm not so prescient when it comes to our real-life bucket.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 3:35 pm    Post subject: we were talking about this some time ago... Reply with quote

Tim Mallos wrote:
Is it too complex to relate in a simple tag line?


I believe Tim Kreider put out an excellent cartoon on that very subject:
http://users.jagunet.com/~disrael/weekly020116.htm

He's neat.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting ending, Scott, but totally unrealistic. I mean, the rest of the world just doesn't have that many rocks.

Ah, good ol' Chuck Heston. Even if you hate him, you've gotta love him. I always get a kick out of people who have bumber stickers that read, "My President is Charleton Heston!" I guess I should mention that my affore mentioned night with Kelsey Grammer included "the Kels" and I trading off Heston impressions from "Planet of the Apes." Hmmm, I wonder if that was the reason that he got back "on the wagon".

So, to all my detractors I say "DAMN YOU! GOD DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!"

No that this politically controversial strip is done, let's all make nice, sit around the fire, and sing Kum Bi Yah.

Hey, Decaf, you want roses, or chrysanthemumenumenums? Hazel nut, or cherry cordials?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn. I was sure it was going to be a monty python-esque foot or something equally silly. :p
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2004 1:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Shoe on other foot? Reply with quote

Rip wrote:
JDE wrote:
I'm curious to know what Mr. Tanion's reaction would be if someone else had made this exact comment regarding Mr. Charlton Heston.
Just scroll up. I already covered that.

Or, maybe, I'll just save you the time.
Rippy wrote:
I mean, I love Charlton Heston, but if someone called him a drooling old retard, I wouldn't be offended.


Is there is a difference between lampooning a medical condition and dismissing someone's political beliefs based solely on their profession? That's up to the individual to determine. Personally, I find dismissing someone's political beliefs because they are an actor no different than saying, oh, I dunno - - construction workers shouldn't be allowed to talk politics, they're just construction workers after all! Or replace construction worker with doctor, garbageman, painter, prostitutes, etc. Takes all kinds, chief.

Not being offended by someone laughing at the same construction worker accidentally cutting off his own finger with a bandsaw or falling off the roof of a house because he's drunk is an entirely different matter.

My guess, and I could easily be wrong, it's not the statement that offends people - -it's the seemingly willful ignorance behind it that offends.

Anyway, the statement about actors cuts both ways. If anything it seems the clueless liberal actors have the decency to not get as actively involved in running for office etc. as their conservative counterparts.

As to 'why I should I care what some millionaire actor thinks about politics?' Fair enough. But why should I care what some fat cat inherited wealth oil millionaire thinks either?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2004 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rip Tanion wrote:
As for actors, I'm sure there are some smart actors out there (I'm just having a hard time finding them). Sorry, if I busted Bubblejumpers bubble.


The issue that I have is with you making a blanket generalization about an entire profession because you disagree with a handful of high-profile members of that profession.

To use the example already in play, I think Heston is a big old idiot windbag, but that didn't turn me away from showbiz.

Food for thought: If actors have no right to talk politics in a public forum, then it follows that neither do comic book professionals. I wonder how Scott feels about that one?

Rip Tanion wrote:
I myself have done a bit of acting on the small (very small) stage, and in a couple of my friends' student films. I'll admit, I can be ham, but I didn't think acting is that hard.


If you thought it was easy, then you couldn't have been doing it right.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2004 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oops. That was me, by the way.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2004 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cordial cherries.

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And you're right, no one has big rocks. So we can stop invading countries, right?

Hm, except we know there are nukes in France, Israel, Iran, one of those Koreas (apologies to SNL), and quite a few nasty things floating around in the former Soviet Union, since they did such a great job keeping track of them.

And India.

And Pakistan, sworn enemy of India.

Oh, and the U.S., which makes sure that no citizens know what's going on in the government, so we have no idea how secure or insecure our nukes are.

But hey, other than that, practically no nuclear weapons on this planet!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2004 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just for that, Decaf, you're getting Exlax, instead.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the kittens are so cute!!!!!! whats their names?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anonymous wrote:
the kittens are so cute!!!!!! whats their names?
George, Tony, Saddam and Osama.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anonymous wrote:
Food for thought: If actors have no right to talk politics in a public forum, then it follows that neither do comic book professionals. I wonder how Scott feels about that one?


Not to take away from anyone's right to speak, but an actor's job is to mouth the words of others. An authors job, regardless of what they author, is to create the speaches/ideas. Given the choice between having an actor and an author tring string together a coherent argument, my money would be on the author.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which might be why we are oftern surprised or offended when actors do speak their own words. We get to know them through the roles they play. It's hard for anyone to sound as clever in day to day speech as they do reciting lines someone spent months refining.

Too often, though, it seems actors (meaning actors and actresses) and other people who have gained celebrity for attributes other than their minds think they have something of value to say instead of thinking of something of value to say.

It's a case by case thing. There ARE really thoughtful actors. We are all subject to the same rule: if you are not the brightest bulb you are often ill equiped to recognize it. Actors just get a lot more exposure being dopey.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Actors just get a lot more exposure being dopey.
A lot more people are getting a lot more exposure for being a lot more dopey, a lot more these days.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2004 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You, for example, have become quite famous on a comics forum.
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DecafSilicon wrote:
You, for example, have become quite famous on a comics forum.


Ha hA HAHhahah Ha, that was a good one!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't worry, I won't let fame go to my head. I'll always remember all the little people who helped get me here.

More Exlax is being sent out.

Keep your friends close, and your enemies on the toilet.
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