Yo. Im an artist looking for some sci fi/fantasy work. Id love to do cover art or sequential art.
My dusty old deviantart gallery: http://brcdealer.deviantart.com/gallery/
My email: brcdealer@hotmail.com
My deviantart is just a hasty sample of my stuff. I have a LOT of artwork at my house.
I can offer creative imput. Ive been on here before but cant seem to get anything going. Before I was motivated by a pipedream-art career. Now I want some money to suppliment my POS-spirit-crushing-job/ REALITY. I'm actually in advanced stages of an I.T. study program cause I want money. I work full time and I'm an intern. I STILL have free time.
Idk what I'm doing. I just have my art. More like my curse because i love it, it EATS MY BRAIN, and i know its possible to make a good living off of it but i cant get to the next level. School is for people who have money or for people who are stupid enough to borrow a lot of money. Thats totally not me. I have learned a lot about comics from my 2 previous attempts on ZWOL. Id say that I'm polite and non-confrontational. I would prefer to have someone write and I do the art. I also prefer to draw what I like. The problem is finding the right combination.
I'm not a diva. Send me what you got.
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GreyBubbleGum
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I doubt you'll get a real offer.
Writers just aren't willing to pay. And most of them don't put in any effort in their story telling. Most of them sort of chicken scratch everything, and artist doesn't seem to go full in either. It's actually bad on both side.
The hardest part is finding a good partner then a writer or an artist. I remember I had one collaboration and my partner (artist) was doing 3 other project also which when I figure out, the collaboration was over.
Eventually I sort of just quit. I try to write in the subject and genre the artist want to draw, because I think the majority of writer just want to tell their story and want the artist to draw, but if the artist enjoy what they draw it's good for both party. Not to mention how many writer can apparently writer in every genre. You got to question that.
But I doubt you'll find any pay gigs. Tapastic.com has a pretty good Publisher Program where they pay you depending on how much view your comic can garnish. I said keep trying to find that great writer, work your but off and try to get into that program because finding a paying gig is near to impossible nowadays.
Good luck anyways.
Writers just aren't willing to pay. And most of them don't put in any effort in their story telling. Most of them sort of chicken scratch everything, and artist doesn't seem to go full in either. It's actually bad on both side.
The hardest part is finding a good partner then a writer or an artist. I remember I had one collaboration and my partner (artist) was doing 3 other project also which when I figure out, the collaboration was over.
Eventually I sort of just quit. I try to write in the subject and genre the artist want to draw, because I think the majority of writer just want to tell their story and want the artist to draw, but if the artist enjoy what they draw it's good for both party. Not to mention how many writer can apparently writer in every genre. You got to question that.
But I doubt you'll find any pay gigs. Tapastic.com has a pretty good Publisher Program where they pay you depending on how much view your comic can garnish. I said keep trying to find that great writer, work your but off and try to get into that program because finding a paying gig is near to impossible nowadays.
Good luck anyways.
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Brcdealer
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Sorry for being hostile. I thought u were my stepdad. He uses the word "doubt" all the time. You sound like a Paul...
How could you expect an artist to get their head around the "D" word? I hope you don't use it on children too.
I got a random email with an offer this morning and I assumed it came from here. Been transmitting my S.O.S. all over cyberspace today. I never got a response from him though.
How could you expect an artist to get their head around the "D" word? I hope you don't use it on children too.
I got a random email with an offer this morning and I assumed it came from here. Been transmitting my S.O.S. all over cyberspace today. I never got a response from him though.
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GreyBubbleGum
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Hahahaah! In your first post you write that you were polite. No you're apologizing for being hostile. I think someone is lying about one or the other.
I have no idea what "sound like a Paul" even mean. I'm sort of scared to find out too.
An S.O.S huh. I don't think it's that bad. By the way, I wanted to say this on my last post but forgot too, good job for now doing the borrow money for college thing. You're like a proud son I'd never had.
Was the offering a pay gig? If it is, hope you get a reply back. Then again...
I have some doubt they might not reply. Ooohhh I'm being so depressing.
GO GO GO! You can do it! You'll get that reply no problem!
I have no idea what "sound like a Paul" even mean. I'm sort of scared to find out too.
An S.O.S huh. I don't think it's that bad. By the way, I wanted to say this on my last post but forgot too, good job for now doing the borrow money for college thing. You're like a proud son I'd never had.
Was the offering a pay gig? If it is, hope you get a reply back. Then again...
I have some doubt they might not reply. Ooohhh I'm being so depressing.
GO GO GO! You can do it! You'll get that reply no problem!
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neuralclone
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Actually, as a writer, I take offense to your blanket statement. Sure, I have a day job, but I spend every spare minute focusing on my craft. If I'm not writing/developing/plotting my comics, I'm online trying to promote them and hanging around here. I know a lot of writers on here are the same way.GreyBubbleGum wrote:I doubt you'll get a real offer.
Writers just aren't willing to pay. And most of them don't put in any effort in their story telling. Most of them sort of chicken scratch everything, and artist doesn't seem to go full in either. It's actually bad on both side.
There are also a lot of great artists on here too. I know because I found an artist collaborator for my first comic on Zwol.
I'd say there are two real problems... One is that there are some writers and artists on here who aren't quite ready in terms of their ability in the craft. Secondly, there are a people on here who instead of helping foster the people learning they bash them down.
I always look for posts from particular inspiring members, like Ruyei and Budeno for example. Those two guys do the most important things we can all do... work on our craft... and help inspire and advice people.
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GreyBubbleGum
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I have no idea what you are offended about. Most writers aren't willing to pay, that's true for one.
What are you talking about working on your craft? Writers write. Unlike artist, writers don't really have something to look up at to compare themselves to. Artist usually have a favorite artist who they can try to copy a similar style to improve their art. Writers can't copy another writers writing for improvement. Artist have more of something to show then writers. Upfront it's easy to tell if an artist is a good artist or not, but with a writer, you'll have to wait a while to see how the plot turn out.
And when I say most of them chicken scratch everything and don't go all in, it has nothing to do with being a good artist. Me and Brcdealer was talking about going all in on a collaboration, which has nothing to do with whether or not the writer or the artist is good. I think you misunderstood me on this part.
I'm surprise you're taking this thing this serious.
And from the way you're sentencing things, I think you might not be that realistic.
You're talking about working on your craft and stuff, when if you just calm down a little, you'll notice some writer and artist improve by doing the same thing. Both of them doodle on ideas. I think you have the wrong idea when you think that great writers and artist sits there pushing their butts off practicing practicing practicing. Time just flies by when you're doing what you like. So if you are spend every spare minute focusing on your craft, I think you're in trouble. Most of them push their butts of not to improve but to get publish for a industry. If you do what you like, you'll improve gradually.
And please don't speak mentioning something that how someone else does something we all should do it. Sure you can inspire people all day, but if you're in college in the art or writing field, umm, stop pretending hard work is going to pay off.
All all the artist and writer goes to college and work their butts off, but most of them are not going to get publish. So there are people who tell other to work hard and it will pay off day. And then there are some of us who tell them to work hard, but chances are slim. Though we do don't actually say it to younger people about the chances being slim though, unless they really want to know.
Guess we just work differently you and I neuralclone. You spend all your time focusing on improving your craft by writing/developing/plotting your comics. Me, I don't focus at all. I just sit around and doodle with plots, just like a few artist I know and draft them out every once in a while.
Wow, focusing on your craft every spare minute. I can't imagine doing that. To strict for me. If someone was to tell me I'm a terrible writer because I stare into space for plot most of the time instead of physically writing stuff down, I would just tell them, it's how I practice my craft. After all, there is no way I can hard focus, and have fun with random ideas at the same time. Perhaps you can, me nah.
Just don't turn this post into an argument post lol. Everyone has their own opinion on stuff. Some writer and artist are more strict on their discipline, while other take a more laid back approach. Both ways are a good way of improvement on their own.
What are you talking about working on your craft? Writers write. Unlike artist, writers don't really have something to look up at to compare themselves to. Artist usually have a favorite artist who they can try to copy a similar style to improve their art. Writers can't copy another writers writing for improvement. Artist have more of something to show then writers. Upfront it's easy to tell if an artist is a good artist or not, but with a writer, you'll have to wait a while to see how the plot turn out.
And when I say most of them chicken scratch everything and don't go all in, it has nothing to do with being a good artist. Me and Brcdealer was talking about going all in on a collaboration, which has nothing to do with whether or not the writer or the artist is good. I think you misunderstood me on this part.
I'm surprise you're taking this thing this serious.
And from the way you're sentencing things, I think you might not be that realistic.
You're talking about working on your craft and stuff, when if you just calm down a little, you'll notice some writer and artist improve by doing the same thing. Both of them doodle on ideas. I think you have the wrong idea when you think that great writers and artist sits there pushing their butts off practicing practicing practicing. Time just flies by when you're doing what you like. So if you are spend every spare minute focusing on your craft, I think you're in trouble. Most of them push their butts of not to improve but to get publish for a industry. If you do what you like, you'll improve gradually.
And please don't speak mentioning something that how someone else does something we all should do it. Sure you can inspire people all day, but if you're in college in the art or writing field, umm, stop pretending hard work is going to pay off.
All all the artist and writer goes to college and work their butts off, but most of them are not going to get publish. So there are people who tell other to work hard and it will pay off day. And then there are some of us who tell them to work hard, but chances are slim. Though we do don't actually say it to younger people about the chances being slim though, unless they really want to know.
Guess we just work differently you and I neuralclone. You spend all your time focusing on improving your craft by writing/developing/plotting your comics. Me, I don't focus at all. I just sit around and doodle with plots, just like a few artist I know and draft them out every once in a while.
Wow, focusing on your craft every spare minute. I can't imagine doing that. To strict for me. If someone was to tell me I'm a terrible writer because I stare into space for plot most of the time instead of physically writing stuff down, I would just tell them, it's how I practice my craft. After all, there is no way I can hard focus, and have fun with random ideas at the same time. Perhaps you can, me nah.
Just don't turn this post into an argument post lol. Everyone has their own opinion on stuff. Some writer and artist are more strict on their discipline, while other take a more laid back approach. Both ways are a good way of improvement on their own.
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When i first read Greybubblegum's reply to my post I got defensive. I thought he tried to gun me down. But then I read it again after I replied. Maybe it was friendly advice (we artists call it criticism and I remember more than one art teacher told me its important). I'm on here to find work and to learn. Greybubblegum gave me ¢2. Thanks for that. I will put it with the rest.
Cheers
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Hey there. As a fellow artist' i know its hard to find paid work, its near impossible on this forum. Check out digitalwebbings help wanted/paid work board. As at least the ads put out are definitley paid although competition is pretty tight and from poster updates, there seems to be quite a few people vying for the job. Grey bubblegum is just as correct as the other postter as although some will not pay, there will always be somone who will. And they should, as your work is definitle of a high quality from ive seen.