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gazorenzoku
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cool stuff. In "Pagans & Sex", the following sentence
"The origin of Valentine's Day starts the Great Roman Empire"
should read:
"The origin of Valentine's Day starts IN the Great Roman Empire"
vince
"The origin of Valentine's Day starts the Great Roman Empire"
should read:
"The origin of Valentine's Day starts IN the Great Roman Empire"
vince
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gazorenzoku
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I loved "Happy Herbert"!! The layout reminded me of the Pac Man cartoon that used to grace the Saturday Morning cartoon schedule when I was a kid. I also really like the sort of dark undertones that are presented in the happy and playful imagery. One way to read this would be to see it as a sarcastically humorous comic with little more than a slightly pleasant experience in it for the reader. Another way to read it might be to see the characters as symbols for things that are a little more dark and sinister. There is something behind that last scene (people who haven't read it yet, don't read this!) where Herbert says "So, you're not going to kill me?" that really struck an eerie feeling into my heart. What is going on here??? I will be back to find out!!
I chose the second reading method, though I don't know which one you were going for. Anyhow, I really enjoyed it.
On the other hand, I found the Valentine's Day thing to be a little bit boring. Comic book documentary is a difficult thing to tackle, though, and I respect your try. I think that there are a lot of people out there who will like it, though.... I suppose it seemed a little dry to me. I mean, the text seemed to stand on its own, without much support from the images. In other words, it was almost like the images were just there to spice up the text... which is fine, I guess. But I didn't feel that magic feeling that you get when you have a comic in your hands (or on your computer screen). I did get that feeling with the Herbert strip, though.
I also really liked the use of space in the Herbert strip. It was crisp and clean, and innovative. Especially the part when he said hello to himself "down there" and then again "up there". That was fun, and emphasized the character's innocence. He was so innocent, that he couldn't possibly understand the meaning behind consecutive pannels in a comic. It was all just one big glob of fun for him. On a slightly deeper level, I really think that this points to a state of mind in the child that is lost in the adult. It corresponds to a loss of contact with our unconscious minds (perhaps). Jung said that the unconscious mind cannot be trained, and that it keeps on functioning true to itself without allowing itself to be altered, unlike the conscious mind that can be trained like a parrot. I take this to mean a lot of different things (like the unconscious mind doesn't train itself to understand and use things like written or verbal languages in the same way that the conscious mind does, but instead merely uses language as a means of reflecting basic truths that are unyeilding and do not always fit into the commonly accepted meanings given to words... thus the unconscious mind communicates with words through art forms like Dadaism in a way that the conscious mind does not).
What was I saying before? Oh yes, the unconscious mind cannot be trained, according to Jung. So anyhow, Herbert's lack of understanding the rules of reading comics could mean that the Herbert character either represents the "pure" unconscious itself, or a being who has accepted a large amount of what the unconscious is all about.
Also, he seems to have no concept of time, or is in a way in touch with something eternal, in the sense that he is completely unbothered by his own personal death. Of course, the reason given for this in the story is that he is chemically inclined to always feel happy. So, on the other hand, I would never want to put forth the idea that the unconscious mind is always about being "happy"... anyhow, I am still a novice at this sort of way of looking at things, so forgive me if I made any blunders.
vince
I chose the second reading method, though I don't know which one you were going for. Anyhow, I really enjoyed it.
On the other hand, I found the Valentine's Day thing to be a little bit boring. Comic book documentary is a difficult thing to tackle, though, and I respect your try. I think that there are a lot of people out there who will like it, though.... I suppose it seemed a little dry to me. I mean, the text seemed to stand on its own, without much support from the images. In other words, it was almost like the images were just there to spice up the text... which is fine, I guess. But I didn't feel that magic feeling that you get when you have a comic in your hands (or on your computer screen). I did get that feeling with the Herbert strip, though.
I also really liked the use of space in the Herbert strip. It was crisp and clean, and innovative. Especially the part when he said hello to himself "down there" and then again "up there". That was fun, and emphasized the character's innocence. He was so innocent, that he couldn't possibly understand the meaning behind consecutive pannels in a comic. It was all just one big glob of fun for him. On a slightly deeper level, I really think that this points to a state of mind in the child that is lost in the adult. It corresponds to a loss of contact with our unconscious minds (perhaps). Jung said that the unconscious mind cannot be trained, and that it keeps on functioning true to itself without allowing itself to be altered, unlike the conscious mind that can be trained like a parrot. I take this to mean a lot of different things (like the unconscious mind doesn't train itself to understand and use things like written or verbal languages in the same way that the conscious mind does, but instead merely uses language as a means of reflecting basic truths that are unyeilding and do not always fit into the commonly accepted meanings given to words... thus the unconscious mind communicates with words through art forms like Dadaism in a way that the conscious mind does not).
What was I saying before? Oh yes, the unconscious mind cannot be trained, according to Jung. So anyhow, Herbert's lack of understanding the rules of reading comics could mean that the Herbert character either represents the "pure" unconscious itself, or a being who has accepted a large amount of what the unconscious is all about.
Also, he seems to have no concept of time, or is in a way in touch with something eternal, in the sense that he is completely unbothered by his own personal death. Of course, the reason given for this in the story is that he is chemically inclined to always feel happy. So, on the other hand, I would never want to put forth the idea that the unconscious mind is always about being "happy"... anyhow, I am still a novice at this sort of way of looking at things, so forgive me if I made any blunders.
vince
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gazorenzoku
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the link from happy herbert back to the top page doesn't seem to work.
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gazorenzoku
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ern, another one...., Randy?
http://www.subatomiccafe.com doesn't seem to do anything.
my webbrowser says it doesn't exist. what am I doing wrong?
http://www.subatomiccafe.com doesn't seem to do anything.
my webbrowser says it doesn't exist. what am I doing wrong?
http://homepage.mac.com/oestii
Go there for now. Technical problems that should be resoloved by 5 EST.
Later,
Randy
Go there for now. Technical problems that should be resoloved by 5 EST.
Later,
Randy
