looking for writer

dooberman · Post by **dooberman** » Thu Jun 30, 2011 3:19 pm

I've got an idea, not really a script, but an "all in my head" sort of thing. It's a graphic novel type story about an ameture comic book artist who moves to a big city and meets interesting people, along with three friends (two guys and one girl). It's a comedy, but some drama is included. the title (pending) is "Life As It Is". let me know if your interested. If you are then i'll see what I can do. my email is JEEVES_164@yahoo.com

AceKevin · Post by **AceKevin** » Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:24 pm

So after speaking to him for a bit on Yahoo, I'm pretty sure this guy is trying to trick us into looking at his junk, folks. Probably best to move on.

dbppres · Post by **dbppres** » Fri Jul 01, 2011 5:34 am

before anyone makes their decision based on the word of someone with the mentality of a horney 12-year old, send a PM to Ancientscroll, and ask HIM for yourselves, what REALLY happened, after we decided to get to work.

That's what YOU missed out on, KEVIN, because of YOUR BASELESS PARANOIA, and immaturity.

dbppres · Post by **dbppres** » Sun Jul 03, 2011 1:32 am

ok. ive had 3 dropouts, so is ANYONE else willing to be serious enough, to work with someone who is serious enough, to help out writers, for FREE?

kalamitycomics · Post by **kalamitycomics** » Sun Jul 03, 2011 2:51 pm

As the only requirement is have no life, no friends, no other projects, and preferably lives with thier parents so that they don't have to worry about being self-sufficient, I'm sure you'll have lots of people soon. I mean school's out I'm sure there are some anti-social teens who could help you instead of working at the grocery store.

So any losers out there, dpppres needs your help.

However if you decide that the writer you work with can have an actual life, then you might get a viable partner.

dbppres · Post by **dbppres** » Sun Jul 03, 2011 2:55 pm

partner with a "life", in TOO MANY instances, equals out to unstable/undependable schedule, with too many conflicts, which adds up to an insufficient/ineffective workrate.

so, sorry if that doesnt suit you, but ive been on this earth for 41 years, and ive been jerked around about someone promising help, but making excuses about it later.

cjhurtt · Post by **cjhurtt** » Sun Jul 03, 2011 5:10 pm

Deleted. It's an agree to disagree moment.

AceKevin · Post by **AceKevin** » Sun Jul 03, 2011 6:08 pm

dbppres can only access the internet after 7 pm his time, and he has to go to McDonald's to do it.

So basically he is the paragon of stability and efficiency.

dbppres · Post by **dbppres** » Mon Jul 04, 2011 3:22 am

a lot MORE stable than you've been showing, by my answering any/all questions, as quickly as possible, versus your taking DAYS to post something.

anyway, have you managed to get your "peter-watching" obsession under control, or is it still a big distraction for you.

kalamitycomics · Post by **kalamitycomics** » Mon Jul 04, 2011 11:25 pm

dbppres wrote:partner with a "life", in TOO MANY instances, equals out to unstable/undependable schedule, with too many conflicts, which adds up to an insufficient/ineffective workrate.

so, sorry if that doesnt suit you, but ive been on this earth for 41 years, and ive been jerked around about someone promising help, but making excuses about it later.

Then why not simply modify your plan?

You need a writer for your project. So you must have a synopsis or some kind of set up for your comic. So why not take on multiple writers?

For example you take on writers A, B, and C. This way you have insurance, because any writer worth thier wieght in salt should be able to pick up where another left off, especially if they have a synopsis.

Some examples of how this could work:

If A flakes you have B.

If B's Dad dies you have C as a temp.

If A is just not quick enough for your liking you have A and B work in tandem.

And in return for each page they write for you, you draw a page for thier project.

Set up a system like this and you should never want for writers.

dbppres · Post by **dbppres** » Tue Jul 05, 2011 6:46 am

sounds like a good idea, so i think it's worth a try.

shukydurn · Post by **shukydurn** » Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:44 am

I have tried on numerious occasions to find a writer to work with, to turn there story into a comic/cartoon/animation and all I have found on zwol are people that say they are writers but few if any will actually enter a project with you. I find this quite strange. If I were a writer, I would give anything to have my story turned into an animation but not so at zwol. To me the writers are happy just saying they are writers and don't have any motivation to see their stories really take off and make it big. This all completely confounds me but I come here week after week finding so called writers and emailing them to try and get something going but to no avail. I did find one writer though a couple of weeks ago but the situation turned really twisted and deranged to the point that I couldn't even make myself be involved in a story like that so i didn't waist much time with him. Bottom line zwol is a place for people to claim they are writers and that's it and nothing more. But hey, if you do find a website with actual writers looking to turn their stories into animations please drop me a line.
Thanks

dbppres · Post by **dbppres** » Thu Jul 07, 2011 3:09 pm

yeah, i know what you mean, and when i was publishing minicomics a few years ago, i had a bunch of artists flake around, and made me miss publishing/mailing deadlines on a few months.

JennaP · Post by **JennaP** » Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:05 pm

I feel obliged to respond. I did open negotiations with dbppres. Before I found out his standards for collaboration include 'single'. That counts me out. Had I known this from the start, obviously I would not have opened discussion. Also, I had the impression that it was likely that our schedules, due primarily to timezone differences, would not gel well.

I am quite serious about my work and if there is an artist out there who would like to draw a script for possible submission to publishers or self-publication on the web and who are willing and comfortable working with a married woman in her thirties who has multiple prose credits, but who can be, admittedly, somewhat quirky and occasionally have to be reminded about things. I haven't *considered* doing animation work, but show me something I like, and I'll do it, and I don't require up front payment, just that monetization angles are considered if the project is going to be self published. I think that's entirely fair. (Note that the script I have is completed through the first twelve issue story arc and I also have a graphic novel that needs one more editing run through to be finished...) But it also has to be somebody who accepts that there has to be discussion *before* a project is entered into to make sure all parties are on the same page regarding work schedules, deadlines, art style, rights...all of this before a single panel is prepared.

I do appreciate dbppres' offer to help everyone out, but he has an arbitrary requirement he's insisting on, obviously because he got burned, that I personally cannot meet.

dbppres · Post by **dbppres** » Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:31 pm

well Jenna, when i was publishing the minicomics, i would automatically send each contributing artist/writer team, 10 copies of each issue that they were featured in, to sell and keep all of the proceeds from those sales, for themselves, and any/all profits, if any were generated, were to be split up evenly amongst the teams, and then subdivided by the team members themselves.

JennaP · Post by **JennaP** » Thu Jul 07, 2011 6:07 pm

Right. My concern from our conversation was two-fold:

1. I don't like any kind of discrimination. So even if I hadn't felt I was the target of it I would have been wary of working with you.

2. I got the impression, rightly or wrongly, that you do your best work on real time collaboration and commonly pull all nighters. Unfortunately, I can't do that because I am such a light sleeper that catching up on sleep during the day is literally impossible here.

That does sound like a fair deal. I don't expect up front pay and I *am* willing to do work for just credit if it's fun enough

.

allenp · Post by **allenp** » Thu Jul 07, 2011 6:26 pm

Where can I see examples of your work dbppres?

dbppres · Post by **dbppres** » Fri Jul 08, 2011 9:10 am

Jenna, what exactly would make you still feel hesitant about working with me?

allen, my samples are at; http://pbcpres1.tripod.com/id3.html

JennaP · Post by **JennaP** » Fri Jul 08, 2011 10:16 am

I really do understand...and I do know married folks who ARE too busy to work on projects, but a lot of what you have said has sounded like active discrimination based on marital status, instead of judging people by their talent and commitment.

dbppres · Post by **dbppres** » Sat Jul 09, 2011 11:23 pm

Jenna, i am sure that you do have the drive to work on projects to the end, but with a family, there is too much risk of that end coming at too long of a period of time beforehand.
my requirements are born out of the necessity to work within 20 to 30-day time limits, assurances have to be secured, and so, people without any other major obligations can facilitate that for me, at least.

JennaP · Post by **JennaP** » Sat Jul 09, 2011 11:27 pm

You keep saying you don't understand why I don't want to work with you, whilst expressing that you don't want to work with me.

So...you don't have any other major obligations? No job?

AceKevin · Post by **AceKevin** » Sat Jul 09, 2011 11:42 pm

Dozens of comic book authors and artist write and draw multiples titles per month with a family, friends, a life. You know, a life? As in, that thing anyone who wants to create art has to draw inspiration from? The thing that art is meant to reflect and bring meaning to?

dbppres · Post by **dbppres** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 1:03 am

Jenna, it's not that i do not want to under any circumstances, as long as you can TOTALLY ASSURE me, and back that assurance up, by setting aside a certain amount of time, each day, and STICK to it, no matter what, then fine, i would like the chance to see how we can put something together. what i do base final negotiations on, is the willingness to work via observance/oversight on my webcam. that is a deal maker or breaker.

Kevin, you showed me how low-class and unprofessional you are, so your comments are falling on deaf ears, so go bother someone else.

AceKevin · Post by **AceKevin** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 1:30 am

Number of professionals who operate the way dbppres does: 0.
Number of reasons to use a webcam to collaborate: 0.
Percentage of dbppres's collaboration conditions which are offensively discriminatory: 100%.

Requiring that someone be willing to work face-to-face over webcam will literally only slow down any collaborative process. Even if we ignore the fact that you can only work at McDonald's after 7 pm, the idea of only being able to work on a project on a real-time exchange basis is laughable. The couple artists I've worked with, it's been constant back and forth emails, with constant updates. Your process can absolutely only make a project move slower.

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