But no one ever mentioned the walrus
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The title of this forum topic is "mentioned" but the title of the comic is "noticed." (Yes, the topic name can be changed, but since the mistake itself was a topic of discussion, it seems wrong to change it- Especially since it's served well enough for 13 pages!)Anonymous wrote:...but the title is "mentionned", not "noticed".
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The walrus being outlined in black is just because he's in the foreground of the frame; he was as outlined (I think) at the beginning before he sat down. Once sitting, he was back from the foreground, and so, like everything else further away, he's slightly faded out (I think) and not as heavily outlined.
The problem with Rip's theory of Susan as "Nobody" is that the title is "No One Ever Noticed", not "Nobody Ever Noticed".
The problem with Rip's theory of Susan as "Nobody" is that the title is "No One Ever Noticed", not "Nobody Ever Noticed".
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No one is nobody, nobody is no one. Nothing is everything, everything is nothing. No one but the Beatles ever noticed the Nowhere Man OR the Walrus (Goo-goo-ga-joob) Just Who in the office is making all the nowhere plans for nobody?
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Naah. There've been other times.DecafSilicon asks:
Scott, is this the first time you've changed a comic due to forum input, other than correcting errors?
Plus, of course, in that butterfly-sneezing, chaos theory kinda way, I suppose that anything I read is bound to change the course of Improv history, if only subtly.
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Ah Ha!
Brimley is Ed McMahon's replacement over at Publishers Clearinghouse and Susan is, in fact, already a millionaire.
Perhaps he is a business card sales....walrus.
I still say that Brimley is going to ask Susan out for a nice fish dinner.
Hmmm. Unless he can't talk. Maybe he has a dinner invitation printed on a business card.
Hope he doesn't mix up his " Would you care to have a nice fish dinner with me?" card with his "Don't scream, just cooperate and no body gets hurt!" card.
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Perhaps he is a business card sales....walrus.
I still say that Brimley is going to ask Susan out for a nice fish dinner.
Hmmm. Unless he can't talk. Maybe he has a dinner invitation printed on a business card.
Hope he doesn't mix up his " Would you care to have a nice fish dinner with me?" card with his "Don't scream, just cooperate and no body gets hurt!" card.
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Re: Susan notices the Walrus (Brimley)
Well, if we are defining No One according to Webster, then No One = Nobody, and Susan (Hottie) is a Nobody, then we're all good. However, mathematically, we would need someone else to notice Brimley as there is definitely ONE that has noticed Brimely, and if one more person notices then there are Two, and therefore No ONE has...Rip Tanion wrote:Is this finally the Payoff?
IF we assume both of the following conditions are true:
a) Scott is NOT once again jerking our chain, by deking us into thinking someone is actually noticing the Walrus (Brimley), when in fact he/she is actually noticing someone behind the Walrus (Wilfred); but, on the contrary, Susan is INDEED noticing the Walrus (Pop Fisher)
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b) NOBODY, in the course of the story, can, or will, ever notice the Walrus (It the right thing to do!), because the title tells us NOBODY Ever Noticed the Walrus (check your blood-sugar and check it often), and we assume title does NOT contradict the story.
THEN we can conclude that Susan, by one person's social definition, or another, IS a NOBODY, and thus IS totally capable of noticing the Walrus (there's just no reason NOT to!)
or who knows, I think I just barely passed that logic class because I was too busy reading Zot! which was far more interesting than my teacher who looked liked the offspring of Benny Hill and Fozzy Bear in overalls...not an attractive woman.
Of course, maybe this is taking place in the Matrix and as long as Keanu (Moron) doesn't notice Brimley then we are ok.
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He's reaching for another card...Drum Roll....
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while i like the theory of suzie being a nobody or a no one, the title still doesn't work as meaning that she notices brimley
if suzie were a geek, for example, you couldn't say "geek ever noticed the walrus"
"no geek ever noticed the walrus" would works as a statement, but that still leaves us at a loss of people noticing.
since no one can notice the walrus, all we can gather is that suzie must not be a one
therefore we must assume that suzie is NOT a "no one" but rather that she is not a one, whereas everybody else in the office IS a one.
perhaps this "one" feature is a statement on confidence. suzie and brimley seem to be the only characters who aren't blinded by their own self confidence (except for stuart in the beginning, but that's before brimley's really in the scene), so, while they may not be able to communicate all that well with other people or even be particularly respected, they do see things that the others don't (such as an error in the invoice or, say, each other)
perhaps scott is trying to say something about people with an abundance of confidence being blind.
or, perhaps, i am.
either way, it seems impossible for it to have been a coincidence that these two are the only ones to really "see" each other.
i hope they go out for fish together.
if suzie were a geek, for example, you couldn't say "geek ever noticed the walrus"
"no geek ever noticed the walrus" would works as a statement, but that still leaves us at a loss of people noticing.
since no one can notice the walrus, all we can gather is that suzie must not be a one
therefore we must assume that suzie is NOT a "no one" but rather that she is not a one, whereas everybody else in the office IS a one.
perhaps this "one" feature is a statement on confidence. suzie and brimley seem to be the only characters who aren't blinded by their own self confidence (except for stuart in the beginning, but that's before brimley's really in the scene), so, while they may not be able to communicate all that well with other people or even be particularly respected, they do see things that the others don't (such as an error in the invoice or, say, each other)
perhaps scott is trying to say something about people with an abundance of confidence being blind.
or, perhaps, i am.
either way, it seems impossible for it to have been a coincidence that these two are the only ones to really "see" each other.
i hope they go out for fish together.